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 This page will give the viewer some examples of what happens when Champagne is combined with dun.  When there is enough pigment in the champagne color, the addition of a dun gene or two will cause quite clear dun markings.  However, in Gold duns, the markings may be less clear, and in Gold cream duns, and perhaps in some Amber cream duns, there may not be visible markings, due to the amount of dilution already present.


Classic dun: black + champagne + dun


One dun and one champagne gene on true black.  These first three horses (collages by Tara Novotny, Rising Moon Ranch) tested E_, aa, no Cr.

"Diamond":

"Angel":

 

"Lani":

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 Click thumbnails to see full size -- subtle leg barring on a foal.

All horses above owned and/or bred by Tara Novotny, Rising Moon Ranch.

(Also see Nikki, a *probable* grulla + champagne, at bottom of page.)


Gold dun: red + champagne + dun


 "Raquel", courtesy of Tara Novotny, Rising Moon Ranch


Skips Golden Rush ("Skip")  
(sadly, deceased)

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Gold dun; one dun and one champagne gene on a red base. AQHA Gold Dun Champagne stallion, an own son of the famed My Skip Vanzi. AQHA #3355127  ; ICHR  #QH1995-0008 ; PEDIGREE


Amber dun: bay + champagne + dun


Dreamer, courtesy of Tara Novotny, Rising Moon Ranch


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Amber dun AQHA gelding

His color and PEDIGREE mean his dam is really a Gold dun. A My Skip Vanzi grandson. 


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Amber dun AQHA mare/filly

Owned by Douglas Frisch of Wisconsin
ICHR stud book entry #0129 PEDIGREE


Little Nikita ("Nikki")

Classic (Champagne) grulla grade QH mare

This webmaster feels very privileged to have "discovered" this little treasure, some time back before 2004, and to have had the opportunity to examine her in person!

We only assume she is a classic and a grulla because she LOOKS so much like aa.  She has a taupe, mauve or purplish cast to her whole body in person, not tan or honey-colored at all.  However, she has not been tested for agouti (the bay gene). We don't even know for certain that she's a champagne; she may, for instance, have the Barlink dilution or something else that mimics champagne.
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*A few notes on dun + cream + champagne:

Some champagne duns are very obvious, and some are ambiguous to invisible.

Gold with dun is not *very* obvious, and adding cream (cream + champagne + dun on red) results in a "white horse", at least to the average person's eye.

While one verified Amber cream dun does have visible markings, another horse suspected to be Amber cream dun does not.

About red dorsals on bays: the consensus is that it's found on a horse that "would have been" a very clear-coated bay. Since the dun gene supposedly does not ADD color, if the horse's back would have been red without the dun gene, the dun leaves that part (the dorsal stripe) red. Many if not most bays have dark dorsal hair, giving their dun counterparts blacker stripes.

That's definitely part of the "question" with amber cream duns.  If dun + cream + champagne dilutes red to "white", and a bay's back would have been red, it stands to reason that there would be no visible dorsal stripe.  Perhaps the one that has been verified and has visible striping "would have been" a mahogany bay.  We hope to see the very pale one tested one day.

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