This page will give the
viewer some examples of what happens when Champagne
with dun. When there is enough pigment
in the champagne color, the addition of a dun gene or two will cause quite clear
dun markings. However, in Gold duns, the markings may be less clear, and
in Gold cream duns, and perhaps in some Amber cream duns, there may not be
visible markings, due to the amount of dilution already present.
Classic dun: black + champagne + dun
One dun and one champagne gene on true black. These first
three horses (collages by Tara
Novotny, Rising Moon Ranch) tested E_, aa,
Click thumbnails to see full size -- subtle leg barring on a foal.
(Also see Nikki, a *probable* grulla + champagne, at bottom
Gold dun: red + champagne + dun
Skips Golden Rush ("Skip")
Gold dun; one dun and one champagne gene on a red base. AQHA Gold Dun Champagne stallion, an own son of the famed My Skip Vanzi. AQHA #3355127 ;
ICHR #QH1995-0008 ;
Amber dun: bay + champagne + dun
Amber dun AQHA gelding
His color and PEDIGREE mean his dam is really a Gold dun. A My Skip Vanzi
Two the Limit
Amber dun AQHA mare/filly
Owned by Douglas Frisch of Wisconsin
ICHR stud book entry #0129 PEDIGREE
Little Nikita ("Nikki")
Classic (Champagne) grulla grade QH mare
This webmaster feels very privileged to have "discovered" this little treasure,
some time back before 2004, and to have had the opportunity to examine her in person!
We only assume she is a classic and a grulla because she LOOKS so much like aa. She has a taupe, mauve or purplish cast to her whole body in
person, not tan or honey-colored at all. However, she has not been tested for
agouti (the bay gene). We don't even know for certain that she's a champagne; she may, for instance, have the
Barlink dilution or something else that mimics champagne.
*A few notes on dun + cream + champagne:
Some champagne duns are very
obvious, and some are ambiguous to invisible.
Gold with dun is not *very* obvious, and adding
cream (cream + champagne + dun on red) results in a "white horse",
at least to the average person's eye.
While one verified Amber cream dun does
have visible markings, another horse suspected to be Amber cream dun
About red dorsals on bays: the consensus is
that it's found on a horse that "would have been" a very
clear-coated bay. Since the dun gene supposedly does not ADD color,
if the horse's back would have been red without the dun gene, the
dun leaves that part (the dorsal stripe) red. Many if not most bays
have dark dorsal hair, giving their dun counterparts blacker
That's definitely part of the "question" with
amber cream duns. If dun + cream + champagne dilutes red to "white",
and a bay's back would have been red, it stands to reason that there
would be no visible dorsal stripe. Perhaps the one that has
been verified and has visible striping "would have been" a mahogany
bay. We hope to see the very pale one tested one day.